Gheit - Oil Price Forecast for 2009

Fadel Gheit has a very good record of predicting the direction and level of oil prices, similar to Boone Pickens in accuracy. He is pointing to higher prices for oil in 2009 and thinks the sell-off is overdone. All this has good implications for the CanRoys. They are very much oversold right now. Pennwest, as an example, can be profitable and cash flow positive at $40 oil. Its costs will come down in 2009 as demand for oil services drops hard. Its fixed cost overhead is not very high (for administration only) and its debt load is reasonable with maturities out several years (much better than American companies like Chesapeake which is in real trouble after taking on too much debt).

The past couple years, it has become popular among the CanRoys to minimize the monthly distribution and instead direct a lot of cash flow to capital improvements and acquisitions. PWE and Daylight have been down around 50% of cash flow directed to distributions. The historical average is closer to 80%. PWE has announced it is drastically cutting back on capital projects in 2009 and selling some properties, so it can preserve cash flow to maintain distributions at the lower oil prices. This is more the historical model.

The lower oil prices should also discourage the Canadian national government from going through with taxing profits on royalty trusts. Oil is not the big treasure chest it was perceived to be by some in Parliament. We may see the Liberal party take control of Parliament soon and then change the terms of the taxation program, either lowering to 10% or maybe eliminating the Harper - Faherty program altogether.

It seems very possible by the end of 2009 the Canroys can recoup the cash flow they had in 2006 and rebound to the prices they were trading at when oil was at $60/barrel in late 2006 (after the Halloween Massacre), when stock price was around $30 for Pennwest (PWE), for example, and $17 for Pengrowth. Also, most of the Canroys are highly hedged for 2009, which will aid cash flow. Pengrowth (PGH) has an 50% of its oil sold forward at $80 for 2009 and 50% of its gas production at $10. The other Canroys have similar hedging programs in place which will stabilize dividends. The market has not factored this in by driving prices down 70% and yields up by 300%.

Here is what Fadel has to say:

MONDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2008
ELECTRONIC Q&A


How to Profit on Oil's Comeback
By NAUREEN S. MALIK

Oppenheimer's Fadel Gheit is big on independent energy producers.


OIL AND BASEBALL -- NAMELY the Yankees -- are two passions that are remarkably similar for Fadel Gheit.

While he makes his living off the first and is an avid fan of the second, the managing director of energy at Oppenheimer says both markets are subject to the "bubble." Crude-oil prices have collapsed and salaries by baseball's A-listers could be next?

"Unfortunately the sports bubble hasn't burst yet, and it will, mark my words it will," says Gheit, who thinks Alex Rodriguez should be making $3 million, not $50 million, for a job some people would take for free hot dogs.

Manager's Bio
Name: Fadel Gheit
Title: Managing director and senior analyst covering the oil and gas sector, Oppenheimer & Co.

Education: B.S. in chemical engineering, Cairo University; MBA in finance, New York University

Hobbies: Watching sports, mainly the Yankees, but also watches the Mets, Giants and Jets.As for oil, Gheit, who was a skeptic as oil breached $100 a barrel earlier this year, has turned positive while others are decidedly negative about energy at the moment. Oil prices rallied to $145.29 in early July before recently falling to the low $30-range.

Gheit, an Egyptian with chemical-engineering training, joined Mobil Oil in 1980 as oil prices touched record highs due to escalated tensions in the Middle East. He traipsed around the Arabian dessert examining oil production before jumping to Wall Street.

Gheit has seen crude oil go up because of war, revolution, and other major global events. Oil supplies in particular have been impacted, but this downturn "has to be one of the worst" because it is a global economic issue.

Oil "is not a free market," says Gheit pointing to Wall Street speculation. He has repeatedly testified in front of Congress, urging the government to create an energy plan and a better regulatory framework to oversee the market.

While that regulatory framework will take time, Gheit sees plenty of reasons to bulk up on energy stocks now.

Barron's Online: Do you think oil is sustainable at these levels?

Fadel Gheit: No, I never thought that oil prices are sustainable above $100. I never thought they were sustainable at $30 either. The global economy will recover, whether in a year or two or three. Two years of higher prices usually bring additional investment and will expand supply and curtail demand and consumption as companies and consumers try to become more energy efficient. The flip side of the coin is the exact opposite. When you have extremely low prices, that will dry up investment and it will take years for the industry to go back on track. That's why you create feast or famine because of the lack of coordination between producers and consumers, the lack of transparency in the financial market [and] basically the lack of government supervision either because of indifference or corruption.

Q: What could per-barrel oil prices go and what is a suitable level?

A: I think oil prices over $60; $65 would be pushing it. We don't need it.

Q: Do you think OPEC is going to cut production even more?

A: Absolutely, OPEC will cut production and we will feel the impact within six weeks of production cut. These people cannot balance their budget at $50 per barrel and so they are hurting pretty badly. One of the reasons I don't want to see $30 per barrel is because I really do not want to see major disruption, regimes could be thrown out.

Q: What does this mean for profits and the marginal cost of production?

A: To operate, the cost [for oil producers] has increased by almost 16%-20% annually over the last five years. It was one of the sharpest inflationary periods in recent history and the reason is that everybody, because of the increasing oil prices, was chasing limited capacity of services, so oil-service companies were basically gouging the industry. We are hoping that the costs are going to go down, but we are talking about 10%, 15%, 20%, not 40%, 50% or 60%. We are also going to see more technology advancement because people will pay more attention to efficiency and cost efficiency.

Unless oil prices recover sharply next year, or we believe that oil prices will average $40 next year, it means that there will be about a 40%-50% drop in earnings and cash flow. Most companies will limit their capital spending to availability of funds , which may be coming from cash flow, so that means that capital spending will be down by as much as 40% [in 2009]. Longer-term projects do not get derailed once they start because any delay becomes counter productive. But new projects will be delayed.

Q: You have been touting large integrated-oil companies such as Exxon Mobil (ticker: XOM) throughout the year. Are they still a good bet?

A: Integrated oil is very simple. We believe that the dividends are safe. Companies like Shell (RDS-b) and BP (BP) offer 6%-plus dividend yield. Both stocks are down significantly this year. Shell in its history only suspended its dividend once during the Second World War. Now if you don't trust the market, but believe oil prices will not go above $40-$45, then you should own Exxon.

A company like Exxon has been underinvested for five years, not because they are stupid because they were smart. They didn't chase barrels for exorbitant price and cost. They have $40 billion cash. They can buy any independent-oil company and pay them a 30% premium without going to the bank. They can buy Apache (APA), Chesapeake Energy (CHK), Devon Energy (DVN), EOG Resources (EOG), Noble (NE). The market value of Exxon treasury stock is $205 billion. That is higher than the market value of BP, Chevron (CVX), Royal Dutch Shell (RDSA) and Conoco Phillips (COP).

Q: What about natural gas?

A: The rule of thumb is natural-gas is traded at one-tenth-to-one-eighth the price of oil. Gas is stuck in a way, because what determines where gas prices go include winter demand. The other thing is most natural-gas producers in the U.S. cannot maintain production if gas prices go below $6 per cubic feet.

Q: What are your top oil and natural-gas stock picks?

A: Right now I think the upside potential will be the independent producers. They have much higher beta. They gain the most when oil prices rise and they lose the most when oil prices go down. I think we are at or close to the bottom of commodity prices. When prices move higher, Exxon doesn't gain as much as Anadarko Petroleum (APC) or Apache or EOG or Devon.

These stocks will do much better than the S&P 500, but more importantly, we think they [will meet] the threshold of 20% returns in 12 months for an Outperform [rating]. Most of them are onshore natural-gas plays in the U.S. The exception is that Apache has 45% of its operations outside the U.S. But believe it or not, these stocks respond to oil prices.

The best asset play is Devon. Occidental Petroleum (OXY) and Devon have the strongest balance sheets. The companies most undervalued in the group, I would say are Anadarko and Pioneer Natural Resources (PXD). Chesapeake's debt level is double the size of the company. Anadarko has $10 billion debt, which they are trying to bring down as fast as they can.

Q: Refiners have been beaten badly throughout the year. Why are you now positive on names like Sunoco (SUN) and Valero Energy (VLO)?

A: The biggest upside potential is going to be in the refiners over the next two years. These stocks are down so far this year about 65%. I put a Sell rating on the refining stocks in January and they went down 75%. A few weeks ago we raised our rating on them to Outperform. The stocks so far are up about 20%.

Q: Thank you.